{"id":4948,"date":"2019-04-11T10:37:11","date_gmt":"2019-04-11T07:37:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.knygos.lt\/blogas\/?p=4948"},"modified":"2020-04-14T15:28:24","modified_gmt":"2020-04-14T12:28:24","slug":"pavasario-pazadas-margucio-pavidalu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.knygos.lt\/blogas\/pavasario-pazadas-margucio-pavidalu\/","title":{"rendered":"Pavasario pa\u017eadas margu\u010dio pavidalu"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right\"><em>Kalbino\nUrt\u0117 Karalait\u0117,<br>\n\u201eGreito gyvenimo l\u0117t\u0173 pokalbi\u0173\u201c\nsumanytoja<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Erzindamas retkar\u010diais pa\u0161ildan\u010diais spinduliais ir u\u017euominomis \u012f atgimim\u0105, pavasaris \u0161iemet savo pa\u017ead\u0105 \u012fprasmino Egl\u0117s Bazarait\u0117s ir Dalios Bazarien\u0117s knygoje \u201e<a href=\"https:\/\/www.knygos.lt\/lt\/knygos\/savas-margutis--apie-tradicini-kiausiniu-marginimo-mena\/\">Savas margutis<\/a>\u201c. Knyga, kaip ir art\u0117jantis met\u0173 laikas, kupina \u0161viesos, jaukumo ir, be abejo, margu\u010di\u0173 marginimo patir\u010di\u0173. Po j\u0173 ra\u0161tais besislepian\u010dios prasm\u0117s, spalv\u0173 reik\u0161m\u0117s, tradicin\u0117s lietuvi\u0161kos marginimo technikos \u2013 tik dalis knygoje paliest\u0173 tem\u0173, maloniai ir poeti\u0161kai \u012fpint\u0173 \u012f asmenines patirtis bei istorijas. Beje, tai, kad autori\u0173 pavard\u0117s sutampa, n\u0117ra atsitiktinumas \u2013 moteris i\u0161 ties\u0173 sieja kraujo ry\u0161ys. Mamos ir dukros tandemas, rodos, \u0161ioms \u0161eimos papro\u010di\u0173 paslaptims atskleisti tinka tobulai. Apie visk\u0105, kas liko u\u017e knygos puslapi\u0173, \u0161\u012fkart kalbuosi su viena i\u0161 autori\u0173 \u2013 Egle Bazaraite.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-35.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5018\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong> Egle, kuo tave \u017eavi rank\u0173 darbas ir kuo pati labiausiai m\u0117gaujiesi jo procese?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Man\n\u012fdomiausia pats i\u0161\u0161\u016bkis \u2013 sugeb\u0117jimas ne tik ka\u017ek\u0105 padaryti,\nbet ir pa\u010dios technikos tobulinimas. Niekada ne\u017ei\u016br\u0117jau \u012f tokius\nu\u017esi\u0117mimus tik kaip \u012f meditatyvi\u0105 veikl\u0105. Man patinka mezgimo\nprocesas, bet smagu ir matyti, kaip mezginys auga, kaip pavyksta\n\u012fgyvendinti koki\u0105 nors sud\u0117ting\u0105 id\u0117j\u0105, pavyzd\u017eiui, mezgimo\nra\u0161t\u0105. Margu\u010di\u0173 marginimui tai taip pat galioja \u2013 b\u016bna, kad\nvis kas nors nei\u0161eina, o tada staiga pavyksta, lyg viskas\nsusid\u0117liot\u0173 \u012f vietas. Gra\u017eu\u2013negra\u017eu yra s\u0105lyginis dalykas,\nbet tai, kaip viskas sukrenta, kaip ra\u0161tas susijungia kelia begalin\u012f\npasitenkinimo ir pilnatv\u0117s jausm\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ar tuomet galima b\u016bt\u0173 teigti, kad galutinis rezultatas tau svarbiau nei pats procesas?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nevisai.\nMamos po\u017ei\u016briu svarbu daryti prakti\u0161kus daiktus, kad jie tur\u0117t\u0173\nsavo tiksl\u0105 ir nevykt\u0173 tik darymas d\u0117l darymo. Man taip pat labai\nsvarbus paskirties ir funkcijos klausimas. Jei siuvi ar mezgi\ndrabu\u017e\u012f, tai b\u016bt\u0173 smagu, kad gal\u0117tum j\u012f daug met\u0173 d\u0117v\u0117ti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u012edomu\ntai, kad megzdamas sau, da\u017enai pasirenki geresn\u0119 viln\u0105 ir tikrai\ngali ilgiau t\u0105 drabu\u017e\u012f d\u0117v\u0117ti ir juo d\u017eiaugtis nei masin\u0117s\ngamybos produktu. Nemanau, kad orientavimasis \u012f rezultat\u0105 yra \u0161iems\nlaikams b\u016bdingo produktyvumo po\u017eymis. Vis tik daikto prakti\u0161kumas\nyra archaji\u0161kesnis bruo\u017eas. Tada pagamintas daiktas tur\u0117jo ilgai\ntarnauti ir nesusid\u0117v\u0117ti, kad tai neb\u016bt\u0173 kaip fejerverkai \u2013\n\u0161imtus eur\u0173 i\u0161\u0161ov\u0117me \u012f or\u0105, susprogo, pa\u017ei\u016br\u0117jome ir\nbaigta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Daug\nkas dabar yra daroma d\u0117l darymo. I\u0161 vienos pus\u0117s, gali i\u0161reik\u0161ti\nsave, pasim\u0117gauti procesu, bet man asmeni\u0161kai, negalint to daikto\nniekur pritaikyti ir panaudoti, kyla klausimas: kam i\u0161vis tada\ns\u0117d\u0117jau, stengiausi ir k\u016briau j\u012f? Net interjere atsirad\u0119s\nnutapytas paveikslas tave d\u017eiugina, tau gra\u017eu \u012f j\u012f \u017ei\u016br\u0117ti ir\ntai kelia tam tikr\u0105 gyvumo jausm\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-30.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5016\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kaip margu\u010di\u0173 marginime s\u0105veikauja \u012fkv\u0117pimas ir technikos valdymas?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Man\natrodo, tiek mene, tiek amatuose ar rankdarbiuose technika yra svarbi\n\u2013 vienur ma\u017eiau, kitur daugiau. Kai pavyksta pasiekti tam tikr\u0105\nu\u017esibr\u0117\u017et\u0105 tiksl\u0105, tai taip pat yra s\u0117kmingos technikos\npanaudojimo rezultatas. N\u0117ra tik taip, kad ka\u017ek\u0105 darai ir ka\u017ekas\npavyksta. \u017dinoma, atsipalaiduoti yra taip pat svarbu. Jei paimsi\nkiau\u0161in\u012f \u012fsitemp\u0119s, galvodamas ar \u010dia pavyks, ar ne, nebeliks\nmalonumo. Tobuliausia, kai stengiesi atsipalaidav\u0119s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Kalbant\napie marginim\u0105 ir \u012fkv\u0117pim\u0105, visuomet jau\u010diu, kad neturint noro\nmarginti, tiesiog nepavyks. Margu\u010diams reikia nuotaikos, tod\u0117l\nniekaip nei\u0161eina marginti rugs\u0117jo m\u0117nes\u012f. Atsis\u0117di ir n\u0117 i\u0161\nvietos. Turb\u016bt yra ka\u017ekokios velykin\u0117s m\u016bzos, kurios pasirodo tik\nprie\u0161 Velykas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-18.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5014\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kokius i\u0161\u0161\u016bkius sau keli margindama?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u0117ginu\n\u012fgyvendinti vis sud\u0117tingesnius ra\u0161tus, kuriuos i\u0161 ka\u017ekur\nnusi\u017ei\u016briu, nors jie niekad tokie patys nei\u0161eina. Arba bandau\nsukurti naujus ra\u0161tus, tokius kad atrodyt\u0173 harmoningi, logi\u0161ki,\nritmingi ir tikt\u0173 pa\u010diai kiau\u0161inio formai, neb\u016bt\u0173 atsitiktinis\nelement\u0173 kratinys.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kurdama naujus ra\u0161tus pasiruo\u0161i juos eskizuose?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ne,\nmama mok\u0117 i\u0161kart dirbti ant kiau\u0161inio \u2013 niekada nepalaik\u0117\neskizavimo technikos. Tiesiog pradedu nuo pirmo elemento ir galvoju,\nkas prie jo tikt\u0173 ir pama\u017eu t\u0105 ra\u0161t\u0105 auginu. N\u0117ra taip, kad\ns\u0117d\u017eiu, eskizuoju ir projektuoju margut\u012f. Jei margut\u012f matytume\nkaip drob\u0119, tai ant jos ir reikia bandyti \u012fgyvendinti id\u0117j\u0105, nes\ni\u0161 plok\u0161\u010dio A4 lapo ant kiau\u0161inio jos perkelti nepavyks \u2013 visgi\nlapo ir margu\u010dio plok\u0161tumos skiriasi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-24.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5015\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Knygoje taip pat yra ir \u0161i\u0173 ra\u0161t\u0173 simbolikos paai\u0161kinimai, kokie ra\u0161tai tau pa\u010diai vizualiai ar prasmi\u0161kai artimiausi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Galima\n\u017eaisti j\u0173 prasm\u0117mis, galvoti, k\u0105 norisi pasakyti, bet man labiau\npatinka ra\u0161t\u0173 formos, j\u0173 vizualumas ir kaip tai s\u0105veikauja su\nkiau\u0161iniu kaip objektu. B\u016bna, kad prasm\u0117 lyg ir patinka, bet forma\nman n\u0117ra sava. Pavyzd\u017eiui, pauk\u0161tis \u2013 lyg ir gra\u017eu, bet pats\nelementas vizualiai man\u0119s ned\u017eiugina. Vis\u0173 m\u0117gstamas \u017eal\u010diukas,\nkalbantis apie \u0161eim\u0105, man pirmiausia yra i\u0161\u0161\u016bk\u012f keliantis\nra\u0161tas, nes suvesti j\u012f yra tikrai sunku.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kelet\u0105 kart\u0173 pamin\u0117jai potrauk\u012f i\u0161\u0161\u016bkiams, kuo jie tave traukia?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tai\npaai\u0161kina taiklus angli\u0161kas posakis growth junky (i\u0161 angl. k.\naugimo narkomanas), kai vis norisi save peraugti, i\u0161bandyti, tapti\ngeresniam nei esi ir nei tiki, kad gali b\u016bti. Vis m\u0117gini save\n\u012ftikinti, kad gali ka\u017ek\u0105 \u012fgyvendinti. \u017dinoma, yra ir kita pus\u0117\n\u2013 turi i\u0161mokti priimti, kad kartais gali ir nepavykti ka\u017eko\npasiekti ir viskas su tuo yra gerai.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Ilgai gyvenai u\u017esienyje, galb\u016bt ne kiekvienas Velykas leidai \u010dia su \u0161eima, kaip tai keit\u0117 tavo santyk\u012f su \u0161eimos tradicijomis?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ties\u0105\nsakant, per visus tuos metus esu praleidusi tik vienas Velykas ir\nvienas Kal\u0117das ne Lietuvoje. M\u016bs\u0173 \u0161eimoje tai labai svarbu. I\u0161\nties\u0173, tiek per Kal\u0117das, tiek per Velykas did\u017eiausias malonumas\nman yra laukti, nes tas jud\u0117jimas link ka\u017eko yra \u017eymiai \u012fdomesnis\nir turtingesnis nei pati diena. Kaip ir pavasario laukimas, jis\nsukuria labai malon\u0173 jausm\u0105. Velykos ir Kal\u0117dos yra laiko \u017eym\u0117jimo\nmatai \u2013 gana abstrakt\u016bs, bet vainikuojantys ir \u0161venti\u0161ki. Tai ne\ntik kalendoriaus data, bet ir susitikimas, o per j\u012f \u012fprasminamas ir\nkalendorinis virsmas. Net jei tas susitikimas vyksta ne su savo\n\u0161eima, jis vis vien vyksta. Portugalijoje praleistas \u0161ventes\nsutikau su doktorant\u016bros vadov\u0117s ir draug\u0173 \u0161eimomis. Tos datos\npa\u017eym\u0117tos lygiai taip pat \u2013 per susitikim\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-32.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5017\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Knygoje apra\u0161om\u0173 papro\u010di\u0173 \u0161aknys labai gilios, o kaip margu\u010dio tradicija veikia j\u016bs\u0173 \u0161eimoje dabar?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Margu\u010diai\nm\u016bs\u0173 \u0161eimoje visada buvo ir yra. \u0160is ritualas suvienija \u2013\natva\u017eiuoja broliai su vaikais, visi kartu su mano mama margina. Ji\njau b\u016bna suruo\u0161usi visus reikalingus \u012frankius. Tai vyksta labai\nnat\u016braliai. Mama pradeda marginti ir visi paeiliui prisijungia \u2013\nnuo an\u016bk\u0173 ir mar\u010di\u0173 iki u\u017esukusi\u0173 draugi\u0173. Tokia Velyk\u0173\npiligrimyst\u0117 kuria bendrum\u0105. Man pa\u010diai taip pat tai labai\nnat\u016bralios tradicijos, kurios \u0161\u012fmet tuoj prasid\u0117s \u2013 dienos metu\nnudirbame darbus, o vakare kartu s\u0117dame marginti.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Knygos iliustracijose labai daug gamtos ir ji tokia tikra, gryna. Kaip gamta veikia tavo m\u0105stym\u0105, k\u016bryb\u0105 apskritai?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Man\ngamta yra svarbi, malonu joje b\u016bti, bet gyvenu labai miesti\u0161k\u0105\ngyvenim\u0105. Tos vasaros, kai du m\u0117nesius praleisdavau basomis\nmi\u0161kuose ir paj\u016briuose, b\u016bdavo labai stiprios patirtys ir\nprimindavo, kad tas dirvo\u017eemis yra mano dalis. Gamtoje man nelabai\npatinka eiti sutvarkytais takais, tod\u0117l norisi va\u017eiuoti kuo toliau\nir m\u0117gautis nepramintais mi\u0161kais. B\u016bdama tarp \u017emoni\u0173 ir\ngird\u0117dama \u012fvairiausi\u0173 nuomoni\u0173, pametu, k\u0105 galvoju pati. O\nb\u016bnant gamtoje ateina vienatv\u0117, kuri man suteikia labai daug j\u0117g\u0173,\ntada geriausiai gird\u017eiu save, savo intuicij\u0105, atsakymus \u012f\nklausimus. Kadangi gamt\u0105 pasiekti kartais reikia daug laiko, o\nvienatv\u0117 man yra pasiekiama namuose, da\u017enai, kad ir labai\nmiesti\u0161k\u0105, gamt\u0105 stebiu pro lang\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"500\" src=\"https:\/\/knygos-blogas.imgix.net\/blogas\/wp-content\/uploads\/Savas-margutis-14.jpg?auto=format%2Ccompress&amp;w=1024&amp;h=1024\" alt=\"Savas Margutis\" class=\"wp-image-5013\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Kaip matai senuosius lietuvi\u0173 papro\u010dius ir tradicijas \u0161iuolaikiniame pasaulyje ir \u012fpro\u010diuose?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dabar\nsocialin\u0117se medijose \u017emon\u0117ms svarbu parodyti, kad jie fainai\ngyvena. Gal tada patys patiki, kad i\u0161 ties\u0173 taip yra. Man atrodo,\n\u010dia labai didelis pavojus, nes v\u0117lgi pradedi nebegird\u0117ti sav\u0119s.\nNet per Velykas marginant margu\u010dius, svarbiau tampa publikuoti ir\nparodyti, kaip mes gra\u017eiai marginame, kaip mes visi kartu susib\u016br\u0117me\nir leid\u017eiame laik\u0105 kartu. Nor\u0117t\u0173si, kad daugiau d\u0117mesio b\u016bt\u0173\nskiriama tikram buvimui kartu, kurio tuomet nebesinori transliuoti.\nA\u0161 pati stengiuosi tuo vadovautis. B\u016bti kartu su \u017emon\u0117mis yra\nlabai didel\u0117 dovana ir neb\u016btinai jie turi b\u016bti \u0161eimos nariai. Tas\nbendrumas padeda i\u0161gyventi \u0161iame pasaulyje.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Kalbino Urt\u0117 Karalait\u0117, \u201eGreito gyvenimo l\u0117t\u0173 pokalbi\u0173\u201c sumanytoja Erzindamas retkar\u010diais pa\u0161ildan\u010diais spinduliais ir u\u017euominomis \u012f atgimim\u0105, pavasaris \u0161iemet savo pa\u017ead\u0105 \u012fprasmino Egl\u0117s Bazarait\u0117s ir Dalios Bazarien\u0117s knygoje \u201eSavas margutis\u201c. Knyga, kaip ir art\u0117jantis met\u0173 laikas, kupina \u0161viesos, jaukumo ir, be abejo, margu\u010di\u0173 marginimo patir\u010di\u0173. 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