{"id":15957,"date":"2026-04-14T11:55:20","date_gmt":"2026-04-14T08:55:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.knygos.lt\/blogas\/?p=15957"},"modified":"2026-04-14T11:55:21","modified_gmt":"2026-04-14T08:55:21","slug":"jennifer-croft-kodel-verteja-nutare-parasyti-romana","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.knygos.lt\/blogas\/jennifer-croft-kodel-verteja-nutare-parasyti-romana\/","title":{"rendered":"Jennifer Croft: kod\u0117l vert\u0117ja nutar\u0117 para\u0161yti roman\u0105?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Viena i\u0161 prie\u017eas\u010di\u0173, paskatinusi\u0173 amerikiet\u0119 Jennifer Croft para\u0161yti roman\u0105 \u201eIrenos Rei i\u0161nykimas\u201c,\u00a0\u2013 parodyti, koki\u0105 gali\u0105 turi vert\u0117jas: \u201eJuk jis pasirenka kiekvien\u0105 \u017eod\u012f.\u201c Nenuostabu, juk Jennifer Croft\u00a0\u2013 viena ry\u0161kiausi\u0173 \u0161iuolaikini\u0173 literat\u016bros vert\u0117j\u0173, \u012f angl\u0173 kalb\u0105 i\u0161vertusi Nobelio premijos laureat\u0117s Olgos Tokarczuk k\u016brinius \u201eB\u0117g\u016bnai\u201c ir \u201eJok\u016bbo knygos\u201c.\u00a0Debiutinis jos romanas \u201eIrenos Rei i\u0161nykimas\u201c<\/a> (i\u0161leido BALTO leidybos namai, \u012f lietuvi\u0173 kalb\u0105 vert\u0117 Rima Berta\u0161avi\u010di\u016bt\u0117) prasideda nuo intrigos: \u012f pasaulinio garso ra\u0161ytojos Irenos Rei namus pirmyk\u0161t\u0117s Belove\u017eo girios pakra\u0161tyje susirenka a\u0161tuoni vert\u0117jai. Jie pasiruo\u0161\u0119 versti k\u0105 tik u\u017ebaigt\u0105 \u0161edevr\u0105\u00a0\u2013 roman\u0105 \u201ePilkasis kardinolas\u201c. Ta\u010diau vos po keli\u0173 dien\u0173 Irena ima ir i\u0161garuoja…<\/p>\n\n\n

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Specialiame interviu Lietuvos skaitytojams JENNIFER CROFT pasakojo apie vert\u0117jos darb\u0105, sumanym\u0105 pa\u010diai para\u0161yti roman\u0105 ir laviravim\u0105 tarp \u0161i\u0173 dviej\u0173 savo pa\u0161aukim\u0173. Autor\u0119 kalbino Gabriel\u0117 \u0160ILOBRITAIT\u0116.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

J\u016bs \u2013 pasaulyje pripa\u017einta vert\u0117ja. Kaip gim\u0117 mintis para\u0161yti roman\u0105 \u201eIrenos Rei i\u0161nykimas\u201c \u2013 ar tai vert\u0117jos darbo pasekm\u0117, ar noras nuo jo atsitraukti?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Manau, abu dalykai. Nor\u0117jau pasakyti visk\u0105, k\u0105 tuo metu gal\u0117jau apie vertim\u0105, ir tada trumpam atid\u0117ti \u0161i\u0105 tem\u0105 \u012f \u0161al\u012f. Knygos id\u0117ja gim\u0117 tuomet, kai bendravau su Olgos Tokarczuk k\u016brybos vert\u0117jais ir dalyvavau meninink\u0173 rezidencijose JAV. Kontrastas buvo labai ry\u0161kus: vert\u0117jai \u2013 \u0161veln\u016bs, empati\u0161ki \u017emon\u0117s, o ra\u0161ytojai, dailininkai ir muzikantai \u2013 kupini ego, dram\u0173, naktini\u0173 gin\u010d\u0173. Nor\u0117jau \u0161\u012f ego perkelti vert\u0117jams.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u012e roman\u0105 pateko ir tikr\u0173 istorij\u0173?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Su Olgos vert\u0117jais esu susitikusi tris kartus. Vien\u0105 i\u0161 j\u0173 susirinkome pasikalb\u0117ti apie k\u0105 tik i\u0161leistas \u201eJok\u016bbo knygas\u201c. Tas susitikimas n\u0117 trupu\u010dio neprilygo tam, k\u0105 mano veik\u0117jai patiria romane. Ta\u010diau tai nebuvo pa\u010dios Olgos organizuoti susitikimai. Tik prie\u0161 kelerius metus ji prad\u0117jo kviesti vert\u0117jus \u012f trij\u0173 dien\u0173 konferencijas savo namuose, man nepavyko jose dalyvauti d\u0117l vaik\u0173, bet i\u0161 draug\u0173 gird\u0117jau, kad ten vyksta \u012fdom\u016bs ir keisti dalykai: ka\u017ekas pradingo, ka\u017ekas atsid\u016br\u0117 vietos kal\u0117jime. Tarp vert\u0117j\u0173 atsirado dramati\u0161kesni\u0173 persona\u017e\u0173. Labai laukiu, kada gal\u0117siu su jais visais susipa\u017einti. Ta\u010diau ra\u0161ydama roman\u0105 apie tai ne\u017einojau \u2013 daug kas atsirado i\u0161 vaizduot\u0117s.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Kod\u0117l romano veiksm\u0105 nuk\u0117l\u0117te \u012f Belove\u017eo giri\u0105?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

2017 metais lankiausi Belove\u017eo girioje, kai joje buvo kertami med\u017eiai, ir pagalvojau, kad tai ideali vieta, kur vert\u0117jai gal\u0117t\u0173 pasileisti plaukus. Be to, labai nor\u0117jau ra\u0161yti apie \u0161i\u0105 giri\u0105. Tai ypatinga vieta, kur tiesiog pulsuoja gyvyb\u0117. Galb\u016bt Lietuvoje taip pat yra pana\u0161i\u0173 mi\u0161k\u0173, bet nesu buvusi niekur, kur taip ai\u0161kiai jaust\u0173si tokia galia. Ten gyvuoja augal\u0173 ir gyv\u016bn\u0173 r\u016b\u0161ys, kurios kitur pasaulyje jau i\u0161nykusios. Man atrod\u0117, kad tik tokioje vietoje \u0161i istorija gal\u0117jo nutikti\u00a0\u2013 kad tik ten vert\u0117jai gal\u0117jo \u201ei\u0161prot\u0117ti\u201c.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kartu tai buvo ir mano apm\u0105stym\u0173 apie vertimo etik\u0105, atsakomyb\u0119 bei vert\u0117j\u0173 matomum\u0105 kulminacija. \u0160ias mintis suteikiau amerikietei vert\u0117jai Aleksis \u2013 \u017einoma, ji yra kra\u0161tutin\u0117 tam tikr\u0173 mano profesini\u0173 polinki\u0173 versija, vert\u0117ja, itin m\u0117gstanti redaguoti savo ver\u010diamus autorius.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Esate min\u0117jusi, kad Aleksis persona\u017e\u0105 \u012fkv\u0117p\u0117 serialo <\/strong>\u201e\u0160itsvilis\u201c<\/strong> (Schitt\u2019s Creek<\/strong><\/em>) veik\u0117ja tuo pa\u010diu vardu.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Taip. I\u0161 prad\u017ei\u0173 maniau, kad ji bus savoti\u0161ka blogiuk\u0117, bet ra\u0161ydama j\u0105 labai pamilau. Romano pabaigoje jai jau\u010diau tikr\u0105 \u0161ilum\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kaip skiriasi j\u016bs\u0173 ra\u0161ymo ir vertimo procesai?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Neturiu grie\u017etos sistemos. Niekada nemok\u0117jau laikytis vienodos rutinos. Mano vyras, taip pat vert\u0117jas, kasdien i\u0161ver\u010dia tam tikr\u0105 skai\u010di\u0173 \u017eod\u017ei\u0173, bet man tai neveikia. Auginame trime\u010dius dvynius, tod\u0117l mano darbas vyksta bangomis: kai turiu laiko, dirbu labai \u012ftemptai.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kalbant apie skirtumus tarp vertimo ir ra\u0161ymo, stengiuosi \u0161iuos procesus kaitalioti, nes id\u0117j\u0173 semiuosi tiek i\u0161 vertimo, tiek i\u0161 skaitymo. Abu procesai man atrodo itin intensyv\u016bs ir reikalaujantys didelio susikaupimo. Skirtumas tas, kad versdama kito autoriaus k\u016brin\u012f jau\u010diuosi esanti geroje draugijoje, ir tai tam tikra prasme ramina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ar vertimas jus padar\u0117 savikriti\u0161kesn\u0119 kaip ra\u0161ytoj\u0105?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Manau, kad ir taip, ir ne. Vertimas tikrai pad\u0117jo man b\u016bti atviresnei. JAV redagavimo kult\u016bra gana grie\u017eta ir standartizuota \u2013 redaktoriai si\u016blo tekstus trumpinti, lyginti, laikytis tam tikr\u0173 norm\u0173. O knygos, kurias ver\u010diu i\u0161 ispan\u0173 ar lenk\u0173 kalb\u0173, da\u017enai yra kur kas laisvesn\u0117s, ne tokios nugludintos. Man tai labai patinka, band\u017eiau t\u0105 laisv\u0119 atkartoti ir savo romane. Ra\u0161ydama apie Irinos k\u016bryb\u0105 romane pabr\u0117\u017eiau jos \u0161iurk\u0161tum\u0105 ir netobulum\u0105. Vertimas i\u0161mok\u0117 mane priimti netobulum\u0105 kaip vert\u0119.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kur skaitytojai da\u017eniausiai klysta galvodami apie vertim\u0105?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

<\/a><\/a> Daugelis apie vertim\u0105 tiesiog negalvoja. Jiems atrodo, tarsi tekstas tiesiog atsiranda kita kalba. Romane \u201eIrenos Rei i\u0161nykimas\u201c labiausiai nor\u0117jau parodyti, koki\u0105 gali\u0105 turi vert\u0117jas. Juk jis pasirenka kiekvien\u0105 romano \u017eod\u012f. Svarbu pripa\u017einti, kad vertimas kardinaliai kei\u010dia skaitymo patirt\u012f; mano pagrindinis tikslas ra\u0161ant roman\u0105 ir buvo atkreipti \u012f tai d\u0117mes\u012f.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ar amerikie\u010diai autoriai noriai bendradarbiauja su savo k\u016brybos vert\u0117jais? Lietuvoje tai vis dar n\u0117ra da\u017ena.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Tai gana \u012fprasta. A\u0161 palaikau ry\u0161\u012f su visais vert\u0117jais, kurie ver\u010dia mano roman\u0105. Prie\u0161 daugyb\u0119 met\u0173 Vroclave susipa\u017einau ir su romano vert\u0117ja \u012f lietuvi\u0173 kalb\u0105 Rima Berta\u0161avi\u010di\u016bte. Kai buvo prad\u0117tas versti mano romanas, nema\u017eai vert\u0117j\u0173 su manimi susisiek\u0117, ir man tai labai gra\u017eu. Lenk\u0173 ir ispan\u0173 vert\u0117jams teko ypatinga u\u017eduotis rasti k\u016brybi\u0161k\u0173 sprendim\u0173 \u2013 jie net patys para\u0161\u0117 prologus, ir man tai labai patiko. Ispan\u0173 vert\u0117ja taip pat prid\u0117jo savo i\u0161na\u0161\u0173. Kai kurie vert\u0117jai pasteb\u0117jo ir klaid\u0173 originale, o tai labai vertinu \u2013 jas gal\u0117jome i\u0161taisyti leisdami knyg\u0105 mink\u0161tais vir\u0161eliais. Vis d\u0117lto manau, kad vert\u0117jai \u012f angl\u0173 kalb\u0105 turi daugiau galimybi\u0173 tiesiogiai bendradarbiauti su autoriais nei tie, kurie ver\u010dia i\u0161 angl\u0173, nes pastaruoju atveju da\u017enai atsiranda daug papildom\u0173 tarpinink\u0173 \u2013 agent\u0173, leid\u0117j\u0173 \u2013 ir autori\u0173 pasiekti tampa sunkiau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Man patiko, kad romane \u201eIrenos Rei i\u0161nykimas\u201c i\u0161na\u0161as naudojate kitaip \u2013 paprastai jos pasitelkiamos tuomet, kai norima k\u0105 nors svarbaus paai\u0161kinti.<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

I\u0161 esm\u0117s nor\u0117jau parodyti vert\u0117j\u0173 ego \u2013 ne tik dramatizuodama j\u0173 tarpusavio santykius, bet ir leisdama pat\u012f tekst\u0105 perimti kitam balsui. Man atrod\u0117, kad leisdama vert\u0117jai \u012fterpti savo nuomon\u0119 atvirai rei\u0161kian\u010dias i\u0161na\u0161as, geriausiai priminsiu skaitytojui, jog negalima aklai pasitik\u0117ti nei pasakotoju, nei vert\u0117ja. Viso k\u016brinio metu i\u0161 ties\u0173 iki galo ne\u017einome, ar tai, k\u0105 skaitome, yra tiesa. I\u0161na\u0161os tapo b\u016bdu t\u0105 nepatikimum\u0105 padaryti matom\u0105 ir strukt\u016brin\u012f.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kokia j\u016bs pati vert\u0117ja \u2013 ta, kuri palieka daug i\u0161na\u0161\u0173, ar ta, kuri tikisi, kad skaitytojai pag\u016bglins?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Versdama \u0161iuolaikin\u0119 literat\u016br\u0105 daug i\u0161na\u0161\u0173 nepalieku. Manau, skaitytojai da\u017enai gali patys susirasti reikiam\u0105 informacij\u0105. Jei matau, kad tam tikr\u0105 kontekst\u0105 galima paai\u0161kinti keliais \u017eod\u017eiais, stengiuosi t\u0105 paai\u0161kinim\u0105 \u012fterpti \u012f pat\u012f tekst\u0105. Ta\u010diau apskritai i\u0161na\u0161\u0173 vengiu. Galb\u016bt romane taip aktyviai jas naudojau, nes nor\u0117jau savoti\u0161kai atsigriebti u\u017e visas tas i\u0161na\u0161as, kuri\u0173 vertimuose nepalikau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Olgos Tokarczuk \u201eJok\u016bbo knygos\u201c ir j\u016bs\u0173 knygos heroj\u0117s Irinos ra\u0161omas \u201ePilkasis kardinolas\u201c yra istoriniai romanai. Gal ir pati nor\u0117tum\u0117te para\u0161yti istorin\u012f roman\u0105?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Labai \u012fdomu, kad paklaus\u0117te \u2013 b\u016btent toks ir bus mano kitas projektas. Tai puikus klausimas, kur\u012f, matyt, gal\u0117jo u\u017eduoti tik vert\u0117ja. Kartais man atrodo, kad autoriai \u012ftaria, jog versdama j\u0173 k\u016brinius atlieku psichoanaliz\u0119.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kitos mano knygos veiksmas vyks XIX am\u017eiaus Pranc\u016bzijoje arba Belgijoje \u2013 dar nesu galutinai apsisprendusi. Kalbant apie Olg\u0105, kaip autor\u0117 ji yra visi\u0161ka Irinos prie\u0161ingyb\u0117, ta\u010diau manau, kad tuo metu, kai visi kalb\u0117jo apie \u201eJok\u016bbo knygas\u201c, pasis\u0117miau \u012fkv\u0117pimo kult\u016brin\u0117s \u012f\u017eymyb\u0117s satyrai. \u0160is romanas i\u0161 esm\u0117s taip pat kalba apie charizmati\u0161k\u0105, paslapting\u0105 lyder\u012f. Pamenu, tuo metu, kai beveik baigiau versti, Olga kaip tik gavo Nobelio premij\u0105. Ji ra\u0161o apie kulto lyder\u012f, o staiga pati tampa savoti\u0161ku intelektin\u0117s aistros objektu. Manau, i\u0161 to jausmo ir t\u0173 aplinkybi\u0173 ka\u017ek\u0105 per\u0117miau ir \u012f savo k\u016bryb\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ar yra tek\u0119 rimtai nesutarti su autoriumi d\u0117l vertimo sprendim\u0173?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Man asmeni\u0161kai taip nenutiko, nors esu gird\u0117jusi istorij\u0173, kaip autoriai \u201ei\u0161siskiria\u201c su vert\u0117jais. Kartais esu pasteb\u0117jusi klaid\u0173 originaliuose tekstuose \u2013 netiksli\u0105 dat\u0105 ar kit\u0105 smulkmen\u0105. Tokiais atvejais tiesiog susisiekiu su autoriumi ir apie tai prane\u0161u. Ta\u010diau moralini\u0173 ar esmini\u0173 nesutarim\u0173 patirti n\u0117ra tek\u0119.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Gal kai kurios knygos tiesiog prie\u0161inasi vertimui?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Apie tai esu galvojusi. Manau, kad lingvistine prasme i\u0161versti galima visk\u0105. Ta\u010diau egzistuoja knygos, kurios yra itin glaud\u017eiai susijusios su konkre\u010dia vieta ar kult\u016briniu kontekstu, tod\u0117l kitur gyvenantys skaitytojai j\u0173 tiesiog ne\u012fvertina. Tad jos galb\u016bt nesiprie\u0161ina vertimui kaip procesui, bet prie\u0161inasi platesniam skaitytoj\u0173 ratui.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prad\u0117jote kampanij\u0105 <\/strong>#TranslatorsOnTheCover<\/strong><\/em>, kad ant knyg\u0173 vir\u0161eli\u0173 da\u017eniau b\u016bt\u0173 ra\u0161omos vert\u0117j\u0173 pavard\u0117s. Ar pastebite poky\u010di\u0173?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Manau, situacija tikrai kei\u010diasi, ypa\u010d pastaruosius penkerius metus. Verstines knygas JAV da\u017enai leid\u017eia ma\u017eesn\u0117s leidyklos, kurios labiau orientuojasi \u012f literat\u016bri\u0161kum\u0105, tod\u0117l vert\u0117j\u0173 pavard\u0117s vis da\u017eniau atsiranda ant vir\u0161eli\u0173. Vis d\u0117lto dar pasitaiko u\u017esispyrimo \u2013 kai kurie leid\u0117jai laikosi nuomon\u0117s, kad vert\u0117jo pavard\u0117 gadina vir\u0161elio estetik\u0105. Taip pat ilg\u0105 laik\u0105 egzistavo pasenusi id\u0117ja, jog amerikie\u010diai nenori skaityti verstini\u0173 knyg\u0173, tod\u0117l vert\u0117j\u0105 reikia pasl\u0117pti. Manau, \u0161iandien niekas rimtai taip nebegalvoja.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kaip nusprend\u0117te mokytis lenk\u0173 kalbos?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Tai nutiko visai nety\u010dia. Studijuodama literat\u016bros vertim\u0105 Ajovos universitete \u017einojau, kad noriu dirbti su Ryt\u0173 ir Vidurio Europos autoriais, ypa\u010d su \u0161iuolaikin\u0117mis ra\u0161ytojomis, kurios tuo metu buvo menkai \u017einomos anglakalbiam pasauliui. Tais metais universitetas si\u016bl\u0117 mokytis lenk\u0173 kalbos \u2013 kitais metais, rodos, buvo \u010dek\u0173. Taigi visk\u0105 l\u0117m\u0117 atsitiktinumas: jei b\u016b\u010diau stojusi metais v\u0117liau, \u0161iandien galb\u016bt vers\u010diau \u010dek\u0173 literat\u016br\u0105.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kuri kalba \u2013 lenk\u0173 ar ispan\u0173 \u2013 jums artimesn\u0117?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Septynerius metus gyvenau Argentinoje ir ten tikrai jau\u010diausi kaip namuose. Ispan\u0173 kalba man labai artima emoci\u0161kai \u2013 tas miestas, kult\u016bra, \u017emon\u0117s tapo mano gyvenimo dalimi. Lenk\u0173 kalba man akademi\u0161kesn\u0117. Nors su ja susij\u0119 labai svarb\u016bs profesiniai dalykai, gr\u012f\u017eti gyventi \u012f Var\u0161uv\u0105 man b\u016bt\u0173 gerokai sunkiau nei, pavyzd\u017eiui, kuriam laikui su vaikais i\u0161vykti \u012f Buenos Aires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kai por\u0105 met\u0173 studijavote ir gyvenote Var\u0161uvoje, gal apsilank\u0117te ir kaimynin\u0117je Lietuvoje?<\/strong><\/h4>\n\n\n\n

Deja, ne, bet labai noriu apsilankyti. Mano vyras (Odesoje gim\u0119s ukrainie\u010di\u0173-amerikie\u010di\u0173 poetas ir vert\u0117jas Borisas Dralyukas \u2013 aut. past.<\/em>) turi lietuvi\u0161k\u0173 \u0161akn\u0173 \u2013 jo mo\u010diut\u0117 buvo lietuv\u0117, tod\u0117l nekantraujame su vaikais atvykti \u012f j\u016bs\u0173 \u0161al\u012f.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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